2004-06-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: Look, lets just forget the whole subject and not talk about it.

2004-06-07 [dani california 311]: like i am trying to do.....how is everybody doing?

2004-06-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: Great!

2004-06-07 [dani california 311]: thats good. i am fine,could be better,but i am fine...

2004-06-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: LOL!

2004-06-07 [dani california 311]: what? seriously,how would u feel if u had to hit on a guy that asked u out?

2004-06-07 [dani california 311]: it was a dare...i always do my dares...

2004-06-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: Did you not like the guy?

2004-06-07 [dani california 311]: not that way! no,its a dare,if i am put up to a dare,i always do it,for crying out loud,i have kissed a guy before on a dare!but he didnt like me,i told him it was a dare,i had to do it.and i made sure no1 saw. but now,i am having 2 people watching me while i do it, and, lord knows if i dont tell him right away,he will try something...

2004-06-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

2004-06-07 [dani california 311]: but dont worry,i will be fine....i was born to emberass myself and be happy after i did....

2004-06-07 [Itsme2]: embarassing people is kinda fun....especially when it's yourself...

2004-06-07 [dani california 311]: yeah,but u all want to know something?

2004-06-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: Yes, what?

2004-06-07 [Itsme2]: what?

2004-06-07 [dani california 311]: if something were to happen that night when i hit on him,i wouldnt be upset,but i wouldnt be joyous,ya know what i mean?

2004-06-08 [Itsme2]: ok......that was random...

2004-06-08 [dani california 311]: no,read a few messages up,and u will see what i am talking about....

2004-06-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: I guess it would be!

2004-06-08 [dani california 311]: what would be?

2004-06-08 [Itsme2]: yeah, I read, I mean about something happening....oh, nevermind...

2004-06-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Gah, I is confuzzled!

2004-06-08 [Itsme2]: and befuddled!

2004-06-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: LOL! I like that word!

2004-06-08 [dani california 311]: nvm,forget i said anything to u 2 numnuts!

2004-06-08 [Itsme2]: yayness!

2004-06-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Hooray, I'm a numnut! Well I gtg! Bye!

2004-06-08 [dani california 311]: bye bj, omg! u r still on that word [its me2]? i g2g too,bye

2004-06-08 [Itsme2]: yeah, as I've said before, it's kind of my word...

2004-06-08 [dani california 311]: yeah,w/e

2004-06-08 [Itsme2]: yup....

2004-06-08 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-06-08 [Draiochta]: Hey!!^_^ Whoa, it's so cool the way you guys are so chatty, my wiki pages never fill up their comments this quickly!!^^

2004-06-08 [Itsme2]: really?  hmmmm....

2004-06-08 [Draiochta]: How are all of you?? Gotta ask you all a favour, please wish me luck, as I start my exams tomorrow!!! >_<

2004-06-08 [hji]: yeah really ^_^

2004-06-08 [dani california 311]: good luck to all who r taking xams! mesa doesnt have to worry for another 4 to 5 years...

2004-06-08 [hji]: yeah! goodluck..

2004-06-08 [dani california 311]: to every1!

2004-06-08 [Itsme2]: good luck! exams kinda suck!

2004-06-08 [Draiochta]: Good luck to all!!^^

2004-06-09 [dani california 311]: haha for u all though......i dont have to worry for 4 to 5 years..more than u all.....

2004-06-09 [Leelo]: OK.....

2004-06-10 [relientdee]: how might i go about adding myself to this wiki

2004-06-10 [mywolfalways]: Add your name here: Fellow Lovers of Sinners Memebers Page.

2004-06-10 [Leelo]: lol yeah, we was going to have it password protected so that no one would mess up the member page, but oh well

2004-06-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: Hello wolf!

2004-06-10 [catelynn]: er, ok BEING GAY IS NOT WRONG!!!! DOES IT SAY THA IT IS WRONG IN THE BIBLE???? NOOOOOO!!!! GET A LIFE!!

2004-06-10 [hji]: nobody says that beeing Gay is wrong! only a gay marridge is wrong and sexual relation ship is wrong because God made the Man and the Wife and thats how it should be..

2004-06-10 [catelynn]: er excuse me but it dont matter wot sex u r if u love each other thats all dat matters! so even if they do get married, WOT THE FUCK HARM R THEY DOING 2 U? 

2004-06-10 [hji]: please use a desend language here.. I know people could love eachother in other ways and I don't say that is wrong.. but you can't go furder with that, there must be respect for the sexual part.. if 2 people of the same sexes have sex than is that an insult against God.. so yeah it harms me..

2004-06-11 [Itsme2]: hmmmmm.....interesting.....

2004-06-11 [catelynn]: yea, but they arnt hurting u as in blood being every were r they? noooo! and who r u 2 tell people that they are wrong, for all u know you could be the one in the wrong, nobody knows! and ill sware if i want to!

2004-06-11 [hji]: I don't say that people are wrong I can't say what is good or what is wrong! and I don't do that.. I say thay God have sad that it's wrong.. only God can tell whats good or wrong..

2004-06-11 [catelynn]: ok, how many times did u use "good or wrong" in one sentence just then? anywho! nobody knows what is good or bad because all religons are diffrent including if ur gay, so what makes u think that ur religon is right? nobody will know what religon is right because you will have to wait until u die to know.

2004-06-11 [catelynn]: its like catholics or prodestants which religon is right? nobody knows 4 sure!

2004-06-11 [catelynn]: and tha is just an example!

2004-06-11 [hji]: yeay thats a hard queastion.. if I'm gay I would stay christion whatever happens.. it's not about how you are but who you are.. I believe that I must respect God and His rules.. so if I was gay I wouldn't take a b/f or something I would live alone.. and yeah that could be hard I understand that but that is how I should try to live

2004-06-11 [hji]: and catholics and prodestants are all Christions so I believe the are all a member of the Kingdom of God

2004-06-11 [dani california 311]: ....

2004-06-11 [catelynn]: yea, but all religons see god in diffrent prespectives, but which is right? like i said no one really knows! and catholics and prodestants are diffrent. im not saying that your religon is wrong, in fact that is te last thing im doing, but you cannot judge people that r gay just because u are following your religon.

2004-06-11 [lochness]: no one is judging anyone cos they are gay its just some people dont believe it is right and christians believe it is wrong but that doesnt mean you cant have your views on sexuality

2004-06-11 [catelynn]: i dident saythat anyone couldent say there own opinion, im just expressing mine.

2004-06-11 [hji]: we don't judge people on that! God does.. we don't

2004-06-11 [catelynn]: well duh! but you r still judgeing people!

2004-06-11 [dani california 311]: i am sry,but i am going to have to say one thing:we all beleive what we beleive,and we what we do....lets just leave it at that?

2004-06-11 [Leelo]: OK....... Seems like I missed out on putting my 2 sense worth into this whole band. lol. Christianity and the belief in God is true it has been proven over and over again that God/Jesus is real. There has been scientific evidense. And yes being gay is wrong, and it is just like any other sins we do, so0o if you lie, steel, cheat, curs, etc. Your just as bad as a gay person. Which means, we are all not perfect, and we never will be, we are hummans, and we do sin everyday, we shouldn't treat gays badly, becuase we are just as bad as they are(keep that in mind). And yes we all have different religions, but the religion where you believe in God is the right one, because it has been proven.

2004-06-11 [Leelo]: Hey did ya'll see the funeral of Mr. President Ronald Reagan?? I wish I could Shake Mr. President Bush's hand. I'll tell you BUsh is awesome, he professed his faith and didn't hold back...ROCK ON MR. BUSH!!!

2004-06-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: I didn't see all of it. I just wonder, what would Regan do about this whole gay issue?

2004-06-12 [Itsme2]: I'm wondering this conversation came to be in the first place.....

2004-06-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: LOL!

2004-06-12 [Itsme2]: yayness!

2004-06-12 [catelynn]: err..... and wot prof is that exactley????

2004-06-12 [dani california 311]: idk,i missed it all...i just read it..dont look at me

2004-06-12 [Itsme2]: yup....

2004-06-12 [dani california 311]: dot dot dot

2004-06-12 [deus-ex-machina]: Christians do not know themselves if God or Jesus is real. That is why Catholics (being raised in such a ways) at least talk about faith. You have faith in that God exists, but you never know. I've never heard of any scientific evidence, but that still does not set God's existance in concrete. People thought the world was flat at one point, remember? And yeah, the belief that Christianity is the one true religion is a bit silly ;) Bush sucks too, stupid oath. Not you... I mean Bush. Surely in a capitalist, multi ethnic-faith society such as America, professing your faith too much is a bad thing. Makes it all a bit bias really. Sure, be proud. Don't rub it in people's faces though.

2004-06-13 [Leelo]: I don't rub my religion in people's faces it's people who rub their religion in mine. I asked my sunday school teacher as to why people are making such a big deal over Christianity, she said cause people see the Americans as smart and stuff, and they can't understand how we can put our trust in something we can't see.(Not saying that just American's believe in God). Ever saw the special that played on the descovery channel about Noah's ark? Well, Noah's ark is in the bible, so0o I'd say that's scientific evidence that God exsists, not to menchin the stone tablets that was recovered and put to gether to form what we call the Holy Bible.

2004-06-13 [deus-ex-machina]: I saw a programme which proved the ark couldn't have been real. But yeah. People don't see Americans as smart, sorry. They have a reputation for being stupid. And that is utter bs. Every other Christian has faith. Not just America ones. Your sunday school teacher is an idiot. :) Anyway, things exist, but it doesn't mean they're real. A lot of books are fiction, so nothing in them has to be real. I was talking about Bush. You don't seem to be the most powerful man in the world. Rub it in people's faces. Bush shouldn't though.

2004-06-13 [catelynn]: oh, so now noah' ark is concreate evedence, yea and im the queen of france!!! oh and on the subject of stupidity, ppl frm japan and northern ireland (were im orginaly from) are some of the smartest countries in the world!

2004-06-13 [lochness]: but that doesnt necesarily make them right

2004-06-14 [dani california 311]: hmmmmmm

2004-06-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: How is everyone? I haven't been on for a bit

2004-06-14 [catelynn]: erm,sorry lochness, but wot u on about?

2004-06-14 [Leelo]: Ah well you people go on believing what you want, I have tried, so I am going to kindly ask you to leave, this wiki is for thise who actually want to make a difference, and all your doing is causing a problem, and to let you know, Americans are smart, Why do you think America is one of the most powerful countries in the world. And my Sunday school teacher is not a idiot you are. So now I am am going to kindly ask no tell you to leave. Thank you.

2004-06-14 [dani california 311]: hmmm,i think we should all jjust calm down,and blaze jons,if u havent noticed,its not going to well..

2004-06-14 [Itsme2]: wow, we actually agree with something, Split....

2004-06-14 [Blaze the Nameless]: Oh crap! Whats going on?

2004-06-15 [Leelo]: Nothing really just the usural, you know what I mean.

2004-06-15 [catelynn]: er, if u refering 2 me pasionofchrist, i dident say that americans were stupid

2004-06-15 [deus-ex-machina]: i think a post of mine was deleted. all i said was that god is real and that we should all love one another! too true for you or something? bye, fascists!

2004-06-15 [Leelo]: No split I wasn't referring to you. and no I didn't delete whatever you posted deusexmachina, and what you say has no truth to me what so ever, buh bye

2004-06-15 [Leelo]: Ooops sorry downritedirty I thought Split personality said that, she didn't say that Americans are stupid. No I know you didn't say that.

2004-06-15 [Itsme2]: yeah....what she said....

2004-06-15 [catelynn]: good. cause americans arnt stupid.

2004-06-15 [Leelo]: Yeah i wasn't referring to you, sorry for that. lol. Are you American??? I am and well it kind of made me a bit mad cuz Americans are smart, it's just that some of them don't show it. lol

2004-06-15 [Itsme2]: I'm American....yay!

2004-06-15 [Itsme2]: I know no one asked, but oh well....

2004-06-15 [Leelo]: lol

2004-06-15 [Blaze the Nameless]: Oh boy, I've been gone 2 long!

2004-06-15 [Itsme2]: yes, you have!  Where were you, might I ask???

2004-06-15 [Blaze the Nameless]: I've just been real busy

2004-06-15 [Itsme2]: Oh, sure, BUSY.....

2004-06-15 [dani california 311]: yeah,u just dont want to talk to us....*grins*

2004-06-15 [Itsme2]: ::sniff::

2004-06-15 [dani california 311]: i know,it hurts that we arent good enugh for her...*smirks*

2004-06-15 [Itsme2]: I know...grrr...

2004-06-16 [Leelo]: *cries*

2004-06-16 [Itsme2]: once again, ::sniff::

2004-06-16 [Leelo]: +dies due to complications with ones emotions+

2004-06-16 [Itsme2]: two people have died today!!!

2004-06-16 [Leelo]: Who else died??

2004-06-16 [Itsme2]: Ummm....I can't remember...but someone died...

2004-06-16 [dani california 311]: *smirks* u two *nods head back and forth*

2004-06-16 [Itsme2]: huh?

2004-06-16 [catelynn]: im, northern irish, but i live in the south of ireland.

2004-06-16 [Blaze the Nameless]: I'm srry! I just have! SO far this week as been hetic!

2004-06-16 [dani california 311]: yeah,same here

2004-06-17 [Blaze the Nameless]: Summer is suppose to reduce stress.

2004-06-17 [Itsme2]: yeah...reduce stress....sure...

2004-06-17 [lochness]: heya peeps how r u?

2004-06-17 [Itsme2]: peachy

2004-06-17 [Blaze the Nameless]: Tired

2004-06-17 [Leelo]: Cool your Irish?? wow

2004-06-17 [catelynn]: yup, its kinda kool

2004-06-17 [dani california 311]: i am tired. got back from b-ball camp

2004-06-17 [Itsme2]: b-ball?  grrrr.....sports make me mad: (

2004-06-17 [Leelo]: I've got Apache Indian in me, and some other stuff.....I think...lol

2004-06-17 [Itsme2]: yeah...I'm cherokee....Passion alreafy knows that, but...

2004-06-17 [Leelo]: lol yeah

2004-06-17 [Itsme2]: yayness!

2004-06-17 [Leelo]: LOLNESS!!! lol

2004-06-18 [dani california 311]: oooooook then,y do u hate sports?

2004-06-18 [Itsme2]: Ehhh....mostly because I find most of them incredibly boring...

2004-06-18 [dani california 311]: y do u think they r boring?

2004-06-18 [Itsme2]: I dunno, I just do.  I'm more into acting and music and stuff.

2004-06-18 [Leelo]: Hey yeah that's me, I'm more into acting, musice, drawing, that sort of thing lol, not that I hate sports, but some of them are a bit boring lol. But I do love baseball, I just hate to watch it, so I normally play a little bit of base ball with my friends

2004-06-18 [Itsme2]: Yeah, I sometimes like playing football...I can't stand watching it, cause I never know what's going on. 

2004-06-18 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-06-18 [dani california 311]: but how can u not know about it? there is a center,a quaterback,and 4 receivers.

2004-06-18 [dani california 311]: and then a on defense, a safety too

2004-06-18 [Itsme2]: See, I'm not really friends with anyone who plays, so the way we do it is just try to get the ball to the other end of the field...

2004-06-18 [Leelo]: lol same here

2004-06-18 [dani california 311]: i play with some guiys sometimes....its fun

2004-06-18 [Leelo]: yeah lol

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: I'm back

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: Welcome Back

2004-06-19 [Itsme2]: yay!

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: lol

2004-06-19 [deus-ex-machina]: can't you do something remotely interesting? i started watching the page, hoping for constant controversy and now it's just getting boring. :(

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: lol What we do that is interresting comes in spirts, sometimes we just talk rather than have to deal with problems that arrous. You can join in the chat if you'd like, maybe then it won't be so boring for you.

2004-06-19 [dani california 311]: yeah,anyways......how is every1?

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: fine you??\

2004-06-19 [Itsme2]: Wow, I feel out of it...

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: lol how??

2004-06-19 [Itsme2]: I dunno...

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: I am back......once more!

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: WB

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: Whats with all of this people who aren't members?

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: I dunno, don't ask me

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: Its starting to get annoying

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: I know lo, especially when they are causing a problem.

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: I don't get why they just can't leave us alone

2004-06-19 [Itsme2]: yup...I was wondering about that myself...

2004-06-19 [deus-ex-machina]: Biggest problem - you believe being gay is wrong. As christians, you are meant to accept them for who they are but hate the act of homosexual sex. after all, you love the sinner, and hate the sin. maybe you just piss people off. who knows, maybe it's just a misunderstanding? maybe you could tone it down and god may have made eve for adam, but what if it's not there fault and it's down to genetics? the people who wrote the people were not god, and had no understanding of life like we had now. it still speaks correctly on marriage, but maybe not for gay people. it makes you look extremist. people hate extremists. thats probably why you get bothered.

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: hmm, I guess cuz they can't see how we can believe in something they can't see. BUt oh well, God is real, Just because we can't see him, doesn't mean he's not there, and trust me, he's there. I've done seen that proven time and time agaion.

2004-06-19 [deus-ex-machina]: it's not about belief in god. it's what you say, in respect to god. not approving of gays is a general no no in christianity. like you say, hate the sin and love the sinner. i think the fact you use anti-gay and god together does not go down well when we are meant to love everyone. plus religion is always up for debate no matter what. atheists always love to have a go.

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: Yeah well like I said, if you can't accept it, then don't bother to come in here and cause a problem. And maybe we are extreme on God, but it's only to Glorify him. And if you can't deal with it or accept it, than just LEAVE!!!

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: I said being gay is wrong, I didn't say I hated them. I have a best friend who is gay, and we get along great, however he knows how I feel on it, but still we are friends, I also work with a gay, and he's nice. See?? Like I said being gay is wrong, But I never did say i hated them or didn't like thejm

2004-06-19 [deus-ex-machina]: precious i was not having a go. and you have a contradiction of your hands. two. 1) you are meant to be against homosexual sex, not homosexuals if you go by teachings. 2) the whole purpose of this wiki is not to hate anyone. maybe if you changed ', and that being gay is wrong' to 'and that having homosexual sex is wrong' you would have much less trouble

2004-06-19 [Itsme2]: First of all, it has been scientifically proven that being gay does not in any way involve genteics.  Next, I think pretty much everyone here accepts homosexuals for who they are.  The act of homosexuality is wrong, but that doesn't mean that we go up to people and say "you're a sinner".  Did you know that up until 1973 homosexuality was considered a mental illness? All of a sudden they decided to consider it as "normal"  I don't know about you, but what would happen if they started to consider schizophrenia as normal?

2004-06-19 [deus-ex-machina]: so you have no problem telling a person they're wrong, even when the bible is outdated on the issue and science has proven otherwise? i find that harsh. BEING gay is not wrong, unless you're trying to establish your own demonination or your crack head sunday teacher is spouting stuff again. the christian belief is you hate the sex, not the people. being gay is not wrong is you refrain from having sex.

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: No I am not changing this to suit you, I am promoting what i believe in, and no i am not meant to hate gay(God loves them and so do I) I am going to stick to what I believe in, and if I have problems with you people who have to come in here and skin your ignerance then so be it.

2004-06-19 [Itsme2]: I didn't say being gay was wrong, I said the ACT of homosexuality was wrong.  Personally, I think that lusting after someone is wrong no matter if you're gay, straight, or whatever.  If you're having immoral thoughts about people, that's wrong.  Homosexuality is a mental state that can be corrected...

2004-06-19 [deus-ex-machina]: well they wouldn't. and i don't know where you got your scientific evidence but if the church has lightened it's views on gays because it is scientifically proven to be about genetics, then i don't think it matters. and if it isn't genetics, what is it? you're going to say mental illness? grow up. stop hiding behind the bible to preach homophobic tendencies.

2004-06-19 [Itsme2]: Hey, whatever.  We obviously have very different views on the matter.  And just for the record, none of the information I gave is from the bible...

2004-06-19 [deus-ex-machina]: i think you'll find i'm not the ignorant one here, and i wasn't even talking to you [Itsme2]. Do you know any fucking gays that have been corrected? Are you saying passion and love can be corrected? There's a contradiction for you. Maaaan, you guys are just silly. Homosexuality isn't all about lust. You can have life long partners and never feel a need to do anything but love each other.

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: Who said I was hiding behind the bible??? My dad happens to be a preacher, and he will sayu straight off, homosexuality is WRONG!!! I repeat WRONG!! I just go by what God says, I don't hide behind what he says, I just go by it.

2004-06-19 [Itsme2]: Yup, I personally know a man that used to be gay, and after several years with a therapist, he's now straight. 

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: Look I am getting very sick of having to repeat myself constantly and don't call [Itsme2] ignerant or imply it. Since you don't agree with us, and you don't want to, then just LEAVE!!!!!!!!

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: Hey [Itsme2] what you doing tonight?? I am going to the movies(taking my little cusin), and seeing Shrek 2

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: HOLY CRAP! I leave and look what happens!

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: Don't worry about it, it's just ppl skinning their ignerance, obviously they don't listen or should I say READ.

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: Look, we need to talk 2 the gaurds about this one.

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: Ok, maybe. But I hate telling on ppl.

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: I don't think being gay is right but I still say gays are people too! I've joined a wiki supporting their marriage but not entirely. You see, I say Bush is being way to hard on the whole issue. Why can't they give them civil rights? If they love each other they should have the same rights as a married couple! Its not like they're ailens or anythig. Its just not fair how people treat them! Its pure racism!

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: POC, the gaurds keep this place in check!

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: I never said I treated them like aliens lol, I just said it's wrong and I don't go with it, but I do see your point.

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: What do you mean???

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: they keep this in check???

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: No! They keep all of ET in check!

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: Oh, are you ok??

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: Yes I am. I sent Hedda a message just now.

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: Ok, just wondering, just hoping you wasn't like freaking out or anything. OK cool

2004-06-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: LOL! I'm not.

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: ok lol

2004-06-19 [Itsme2]: hey, yeah, passion, I'm sitting at home because I have no life...just kidding...I've worked close these last few nights so I'm catching up on my rest

2004-06-19 [Leelo]: Yeah lol I would too

2004-06-19 [Itsme2]: yup...grrrr, the people kept ordering food and stuff, and I had to clean and it made me mad

2004-06-19 [Itsme2]: but I got my cell phone yesterday, too, so I'm kind of happy